Curse

gloria vander belt · Jan 07, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Just Vanquishing an Area, there were 1-2 doyalak riders in each group, wich is No Problem to deal with, but twice now in 2 different areas i came accross groups with 3 doylak riders, now 2 is easy to over come, but three is impossible, and it would be alright if u played with groups/people, but i cant find any1 good enough, so my heroes and henchies are all i have, and cus doylak riders cant be knocked down my ele cant interupt them, not to mention the group has 14 enemies in it, and no matter where i flag my H/H's the enemies run straight pass me for them, making it hard to tank, and making interupting that 1 step harder, i have managed to off those groups, but still for the sake of future players, please limit the game to have 2 healers per group, atleast that way H/H can be done better.

Peace

I pwnd U · Jan 07, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Ya I have had this problem before. It's a real pain, even if you spread out your damage their healing is to strong due to bumped up attributes and insane energy recharge. Just have to keep focusing on one or switching between the monks. Not easy for sure.

Keithark · Jan 07, 2008, 09:47 PM // 21:47

/me hench with leach sig or something like that, ranger with BhA savage and distract, you with savage slash...lots of ways to interrupt

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 07, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

3 Dolyaks is doable, I've done it. You mentioned tanking. It's a waste of a skillbar. H/H can get you Legendary Vanquisher if you do it right.

Molock · Jan 07, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Have you tried spamming Scourge Healing/Enchants? I have never actually taken the time to vanquish so I don't know exactly how hard it is to take down these guys.. I guess interupting them is nearly impossible because of the HM buff they get...

3 is indeed overkill, it should (but probably won't, lol) be changed.

eximiis · Jan 07, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

try to pulling the group or making it move so the dolyak are close to each other making it easier to aoe them.

pressure would be the key. if they flee teh aoe, they don't heal each other while running away.

knives · Jan 07, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

BHA + Epidemic/Fevered would help.

Chrono Re delle Ere · Jan 07, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

was just about to post BHA + epidemic, and about tanking with h/h, try putting your heroes 1 and half aggro buble distant from you, always works out for me.

Longasc · Jan 07, 2008, 10:51 PM // 22:51

The Frostgate mission has a group of 4 Dolyak Masters.

The way to beat them is enchantment removal. Daze is optional, but not needed. It is also not too effective, a their heals are so fast that they even bring them through if dazed, too fast for heroes usually.

Warrior: Be W/D and use Rending Touch
Necromancer: Chillblains and/or Gaze of Contempt help, too.

Did it with both of them. My Necro also vanquished with only one enchantment removal skill (Gaze), without Daze (had two splinter/barrage rangers) and it works (fine!).

Mark of Protection is the only thing that makes them strong. They run out of energy for the 10 energy heal other spells pretty quickly, and then you just have to take care of Mark of Protection, which fortunately has a longish recharge, too.

Mr. G · Jan 07, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

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LMAO, if u read propperly i wasnt asking for help, i have gotten threw them areas, and ya i know i can interupt many ways, but interupting three at once i can not do!!!

please read properly before posting like I PWNED U did, he is the only 1 that seemed like he read it!!

my eyes....they burn

urg read the posting rules, and if you arn't posting for help why were you posting?

to say "twaz wel' 'ard, but I iz leet?"

Longasc · Jan 07, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06

So your only wish was to reduce the number of Dolyak Riders from 3 to 2.
This should be in the suggestion forum.

I see no reason why PvE should be made even easier because you find the few areas where you have to fight harder "annoying".

Next time think about what you are posting before you post such nonsense. Do you really expect people to feel with you about Dolyaks and having a hard time???

Kook~NBK~ · Jan 07, 2008, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Yep, those multi-monk groups are a pain. I'm kinda stuck on the Frost Gate bonus because of the Doylak infested mob there - LOL. I'm not looking forward to clearing out Dreadnaught's drift / Lornar's Pass, that's for sure.

Then again, some of the the ideas posted here have possiblities...

Old Man Of Ascalon · Jan 07, 2008, 11:37 PM // 23:37

Bring Scourge Healing and Spiteful Spirit. It's what I had to do versing the Grawl healers that mob into groups sometimes 4 strong. That will kill them fast.

Zeek Aran · Jan 07, 2008, 11:46 PM // 23:46

I did it with a friend and no interrupts. We grouped them and bombed them with burning and other things, switching back and forth for five minutes until one died. Yay! Anyway, there are many things you can do. Enchantment stripping, daze, and backfire are the best though.

cellardweller · Jan 07, 2008, 11:46 PM // 23:46

Equip a sword, stand with your right shoulder against a wall, select them and hit space, and watch them come running straight for you. They'll fall quickly under SV/AV energy denial when trapped like this.

Messy · Jan 08, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

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Originally Posted by gloria vander belt

LMAO, if u read propperly i wasnt asking for help, i have gotten threw them areas, and ya i know i can interupt many ways, but interupting three at once i can not do!!!

please read properly before posting like I PWNED U did, he is the only 1 that seemed like he read it!!

wow that's mmmm RUDE??? ugh. Maybe they are not trying to help YOU, but other players who might have problems with a similar situation. Like somebody mentioned... there is a suggestion section.

Darkobra · Jan 08, 2008, 01:15 AM // 01:15

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Originally Posted by gloria vander belt

LMAO, if u read propperly i wasnt asking for help, i have gotten threw them areas, and ya i know i can interupt many ways, but interupting three at once i can not do!!!

please read properly before posting like I PWNED U did, he is the only 1 that seemed like he read it!!

Yeah. You do realise that you're not the only player on your team, right? As egocentric as you are. You know, when you spell properly, I'll read properly. That's called compromise. You should try it with your terrible planning from now on.

Mesmer. That is all.

Commander Ryker · Jan 08, 2008, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by gloria vander belt

LMAO, if u read propperly i wasnt asking for help, i have gotten threw them areas, and ya i know i can interupt many ways, but interupting three at once i can not do!!!

please read properly before posting like I PWNED U did, he is the only 1 that seemed like he read it!!

So, if you're not asking for help, then you are whining. "There's too many healers" wah wah

Yang Whirlwind · Jan 08, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

So, if you're not asking for help, then you are whining. "There's too many healers" wah wah

Can't we have a section for whining? - that would really help! (because then I could simply skip that section and avoid hearing it all together!)

Since it sounds like you overcame those "3 healers in in huge mob" difficulties, I would deem that what you faced would be called a challenge,- not something that needed fixing!

Avai · Jan 08, 2008, 03:26 PM // 15:26

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

...As egocentric as you are. You know, when you spell properly, I'll read properly. That's called compromise. You should try it with your terrible planning from now on.

Two thumbs up!